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  1. Drew

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    I'm Baaaack!!

    Started assembling the golwolf, still haven't opened the shell bag, but I've already built the car up, just basic stock with front/rear bumper or roller points trimmed off. I then used silver marker pen to colour the chassis a little, not entirely covered, just parts that are mostly likely seen with the shell on.
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    I'm changing the stock wheels for the plated wheels...bit disappointed with the quality of them though to be honest. It's like some white, hard and brittle plastic, on par for being as bad as the soft, extremely bendy orange plastic. I cracked two wheels just pushing them onto axles. Since it's not for racing, it doesn't matter so much.

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    I have an idea how I want to do the stickers, but I'm not going to do it just yet, I want to get some rubber gloves and some more clear coat. I'll also need to find another sticker for the window, the blue looks nasty, so maybe I'll get the poly veldaga, I think the front/sides window stickers are the same.

    Anyhow, the new main project, even though I've still not finished the FISS ms yet.....
    The MAtorcycle.
    I think this is going to be interesting, I want to use the same gear box method as the custom MA offroader.
    I've started to trim the chassis, but I need to wait on a couple gear packs and the new wild mini for all the gears needed.
    Here's what I've done so far however.

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    There will be a lot more cutting later, but for now, the main areas have been cut and the area the gear will go (red rings). The green ring is more that I may have to cut off later, will have to see, need the frp, gears and wheels before I get to that. And the green lines on the rear is where I'll probably need to cut a slot for the rear frp swing arms.
     
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    Another quick update, with the MAtorcycle, I'm looking at doing this for the front end. The 9mm mount hole will be on the shaft with the pink/orange gear, I'll try to make it so the chassis is angled down a little and use the top couple holes as one of the mounts for the suspension.
    I'm looking at mounting 5mm bearings for the wheels, I'll need to use 1.5mm spacer and bearing spacer to set the spacing between the frp and wheels correctly. I'll need to make a stopper for the outside to either glue on or use shaft stoppers. Time will see.
    Final note, I'll need to mount the gear between the two wheels when I get the wild mini.

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    Was trying to figure out the front wheels and mount today. Still undecided, this is what I have so far.

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    Feels too long, so I'm thinking of shortening it. Something like this I think:

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    The pink gear is just a place holder right now that I used so I could get the frp width correct. It'll be swapped for the orange gear from the wild mini which should be about as big as the wheels themselves. I'll still have to prepare the tires. I'll look into it again tomorrow.
     
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    So I haven't yet shortened the wheel base correctly, still waiting on the wild mini for the gears.
    That aside, I think you guys will find this a special treat.

    So I've set the chassis for the rear frp swing arms. 20180509_194153.jpg 20180509_194247.jpg


    After this I started having a think about the suspension, how to make the shock, etc....after a couple days, I came up with a solution and realised just how much I had been over thinking it. If you look at the front frp in the first picture, you'll see I haven't yet trimmed it, which is a good thing, because using that, I can just cut a couple slots and put the spring under it.

    So I trimmed down the frp so it could stand on it's own wheels, then set about doing the springs.
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    The back is a little different since the frp is set wider and sits next to the chassis wall. So for the rear I decided to use a countersunk screw, add a 1.5mm spacer and fasten it down with a locknut. I then trimmed the excess screw. It ends up like a little box the spring can't get out of.

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    The end result so far is this...

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    I wasn't expecting what I saw in the out come, what made it really unique, well....you'll have to see this little clip.
    I hope you guys love it and enjoy it.

     
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    Did a little more.
    I've used 2mm propeller shaft to make the gear and frp mount axle. Added bearings to the orange gear, I messed up a little so had to improvise with 850/520 bearing method, came out very nice in the end at least. Made thread at the ends of the shaft and attached hex spacers, this will be where I mount the rollers.

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    I drilled and tapped some 2mm holes to mount the rollers, here I've just mounted the standard plastic ones to get a feel for the car.
    I've ordered some 17mm rollers, which should be just about right. A couple pics with it propped up against a wall, it will probably go a little further but I haven't trimmed down the wheels axles yet as I'm still waiting on the new gears.

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    I also added the motor and batteries along with a few more of the parts to make a slow motion drop test. I got to test out this new function of my new phone while getting an idea of the car setup. It's still missing tires and the positioning of the wheels has yet to be set, this will of course change the drop test later, but for now, it's just good to see what's happening.

     
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    Whoever thought cutting out each of the silver parts of the wolf stickers and putting them on the car, deserves a good swift kick to the balls!

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    Whoa this is something else out of the world
     
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    So I got the wild mini nissan terrano paris dakar car, so I painted it the blue I had and will sticker it up later. I clear coated the golwolf and dcr......
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    And horror struck!! The colour plating ran!! Well hell with it, I'm not getting a limited plated car again unless the stickers actually suit the car and next time no coating!
    You can see where it run down over the wolf stickers. A bit disappointed, doesn't look too terrible at least, still, a bit disappointing. Never mind. I'll just put it in the stack of cars I don't really care about.
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    Anyway, back to the important part. The gears from the wild mini, they'll fit perfectly between the wheels. The only thing I'll need to do is make a small slot so I can put a pin through the axle and hold the gear in place. Otherwise it will just be spinning on the axle.
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    So I just coloured the windows orange and gave them some brown trim......looks nasty, but it's still better than the blue stickers. I guess cutting out the windows and placing transparent plastic that's coloured would look far better....but meh. 20180516_121048.jpg
     
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    Started getting to work on the MAtorcycle again. Not quite there, but almost finished the front wheel and mount. I used a brass roller insert, drilled a 1.2mm hole through both the axle and insert, trimmed the insert down so it fit perfectly to the width of the gear, I then mounted the gear after trimming the small gear part off and making a slit, used a couple big washers and added the wheels. It's a little off in the image, but I've already tweaked how the gear is sitting, it's perfectly sandwiched between the wheels now.

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    I cut down the axle, added the parts (bearings and spacers etc) to get final width to trim the axle.
    The frp swing arm I made two parts from a single rear roller stay.
    I've added a hole for adding a set spacing screw later (red).
    I had already done the spring hook (green).
    I've drilled the hole for the bearing (purple).
    And finally, I'm going to add a screw to the long hole (yellow) that I can adjust for limiting the front travel distance.
    The rear will be exactly the same process once I'm finished with the front end.

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    The final image is just a quick test fit.

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    Back end is pretty much same as the front, haven't completely put it together, making new roller mounts, still waiting on tires.
    I have had it running so it does work. Suspension is a little stiffer now the wheels are set properly.

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    I just wanted to see what it looked like with a shell, it's a shame it won't go further down when positioned properly and I don't want to start cutting up the shell. I'm tempted to get another DCR purple special just so I have another white dcr shell to cut, looks kind of cool. But I have a got a poly astute coming. Will have to see.

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    Power test....we does everything want to escape from me? Q_Q
     
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    So, it's not going to look like I've done much, but I have set the gear/roller mount axle now, along with shaping and adding the front/rear tires. I'm still waiting on new rollers, shell and motor for this one to finish it off, but here's some images of the finished chassis pretty much. Just ignore the rollers positioning right now, I haven't used any threadlock/superglue yet, will do that once I have the new rollers.

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    I've already made a drop test video for this, I will edit this post and post the video a bit later once it's ready. I'll work out what I'm going to do to give it a test run once it's fully finished.


    Edit: Video just finished uploading, it's all in Slomo, so just skip to each point you're interested in, it'll be a bit quicker.

     
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    So I set up a temp test track in the bedroom, but in the process of getting the walls set up so the car could pass the whole circuit without crashing, it took a couple hits in to the thin edge of the wall. This caused the axle to snap where I made the holding pin for the gear. I'm thinking I'll have to change the axle to the 3mm axle from the wild mini. It should be stronger once this mod is done. But I'll need to replace the bearings, unfortunately I don't have any 630 bearings. The only 4 I have are on the suspension wild mini and I don't have any frp to replace the swing arms just to make smaller holes for the axle eyelets.

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    But....before it finally gave out, I did get to see how the car would handle. I think it's weakness is going to be chicanes or bouncing off the wrong wall heading into the corner, this can cause the car to flip. Although I'm not using the 17mm rollers, so that might make a difference by making the lean angle smaller. Will have to do more testing later.
     
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    Figured I'd post this here while I keep this thread active.
    Just finished painting a pair of new cars.....well almost, just need to do a clear coat sealer.
    I always wanted to try a sort of arctic splinter camo pattern, so here's my attempt. Came out decent I guess.
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    Love those paint jobs! Very cool and looks like you achieved a really high-quality finish. Nice work.
     
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    I decided to do some more photos with the shells on a spare chassis I have. I've already clear coated them here.

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    That’s the best looking Nitrage I’ve ever seen, that’s for sure.
     
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    So I finally got a small clip of the MAtorcycle in action, unfortunately I was having a few issues, so it's only about 20s long.

    To elaborate, I had to make a quick test loop, since my track has holes in every section, I wanted to run it on the tiles. I covered the holes on the corners then just added some card for straight walls. There were flexing a lot and causing the car to bounce around, crash and flip a lot, so I tried to strengthen the point the car was hitting by using my drill press ( I know, laziness....).

    Then there is also the issue that during setting up the test loop, the axles got broken, so I had to rebuild a little and come up with a working solution. This has lead to the rear wheel positioning too close to the chassis and gear now, so it's rubbing and slowing down the car a little. I'll have to make now swing arms and get some ball bearing at some point and remount all the wheels.

    Finally, and partly because of the track issue causing the car to flip, I had problems getting much footage of the car running. It seems like the car would run fine for about 5-10 laps then as soon as I started recording, it would crash or flip. So these few laps were the best I could get.

    Anyway, I'm sure this was boring to read, here's the video, short and sweet.

     
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    Rangga at team flazh keeps bugging me to send him one of my nitrage shells..... I keep teasing him with images of it :cool:
     
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    While I'm waiting on a few things to replace on the MAtorcycle, I figured I'd just do a random post.

    The leo brigade is out in force and feline grrrrrrrreat.

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    Think I'm missing a colour here or there. I need a red one to complete Team RWBY or red/blue/green/pink to complete the power rangers!

    Anyway, I've finally decided on a setup for the white leo, will keep it simple, static stays, no suspension, I have a white one way wheel set on order, when that arrives I'll decide whether or not to keep the current wheels or the one way. Then I'll just need some rollers to finish it off. I think I'll cut down some of the bar dampers I have and paint them instead of buying more.

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    Also, a trusty set of tools I'd recommend anyone to get: a tap and die set. Thread the holes before hand and less issues with stripping screw heads or the thread inside the plastic. And the other for making fresh thread on screws, shafts and propellers.

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    I get so much use out of mine. A great buy.
    And finally, my desktop sized leaning tower of......Mini 4WD boxes!! And other boxes......and a workplace that could really use a tidy up.....with more boxes!!!!!

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    Ok, now that I've bored you all, go find something fun to do!
     
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